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Osama bin Laden: "Bush cannot protect you"
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MrPepper11
2004-10-29 20:29:54 UTC
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Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004

Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.

U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.

Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.

The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.

The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.

--------

"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001

"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
kurttrail
2004-10-29 20:32:58 UTC
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Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
Osama mocks Bush about reading "My Pet Goat!"
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2004-10-29 21:45:27 UTC
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Post by kurttrail
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
Osama mocks Bush about reading "My Pet Goat!"
Ol' Bush just has them guys on the run, eh? Laughing their asses off
at him is what they're doing.

Bush is a legend in his own mind.
ABU GHRAIB
2004-10-30 00:29:52 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by kurttrail
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
Osama mocks Bush about reading "My Pet Goat!"
Ol' Bush just has them guys on the run, eh? Laughing their asses off
at him is what they're doing.
Bush is a legend in his own mind.
OBL is signalling that he wants Bush elected, otherwise
he would have kept his mouth shut.
Richard
2004-10-30 01:22:49 UTC
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Post by ABU GHRAIB
Post by Richard
Post by kurttrail
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
Osama mocks Bush about reading "My Pet Goat!"
Ol' Bush just has them guys on the run, eh? Laughing their asses off
at him is what they're doing.
Bush is a legend in his own mind.
OBL is signalling that he wants Bush elected, otherwise
he would have kept his mouth shut.
Of course OBL wants him elected. Bush is one-dimensional, arrogant,
careless, and 100% predictable--all the things OBL could ever ask for
in an enemy.
r***@comcast.net
2004-10-30 01:44:03 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by ABU GHRAIB
OBL is signalling that he wants Bush elected, otherwise
he would have kept his mouth shut.
Of course OBL wants him elected. Bush is one-dimensional, arrogant,
careless, and 100% predictable--all the things OBL could ever ask for
in an enemy.
So far Bush has done everything Bin Laden said he would or wanted him
to. An arrogant enemy is a warriors delight.

________
Conservatives whine about the Liberals controlling the world
like the Nazis whined about the Jews controlling the world.
unknown
2004-10-30 21:57:04 UTC
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So does Iran and North Korea and every country that is the enemy of
the "United States". What does that tell you people out there?
Cosmo
2004-10-30 01:17:13 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by kurttrail
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
Osama mocks Bush about reading "My Pet Goat!"
Ol' Bush just has them guys on the run, eh?
Yeah he smoked them out of their caves into a video recording studio.


Laughing their asses off
Post by Richard
at him is what they're doing.
Bush is a legend in his own mind.
False Document
2004-10-29 20:41:03 UTC
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Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.
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digitman
2004-10-29 20:54:09 UTC
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On 29 Oct 2004 20:41:03 GMT, False Document
Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country
would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors
alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats
was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a
school when the attack occurred.

"Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons
are still there to repeat what happened," bin Laden tells Americans.

THERE IS MY PET GOAT REFERENCE. DID MICHAEL MOORE GIVE OSAMA A COPY OF
FAHRENHEIT 9/11?
kurttrail
2004-10-29 20:58:51 UTC
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Post by digitman
On 29 Oct 2004 20:41:03 GMT, False Document
Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes
out just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al
qaqaa.
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country
would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors
alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats
was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a
school when the attack occurred.
"Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons
are still there to repeat what happened," bin Laden tells Americans.
THERE IS MY PET GOAT REFERENCE. DID MICHAEL MOORE GIVE OSAMA A COPY OF
FAHRENHEIT 9/11?
He downloaded it off the net. Bush is all talk, except when it comes to
sending troops to invade an oil-rich country, that didn't pose a threat to
us.

Over 3 Years, and Osama is still making videos!
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All Patriots
2004-10-29 21:46:48 UTC
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Post by kurttrail
Post by digitman
On 29 Oct 2004 20:41:03 GMT, False Document
Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes
out just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al
qaqaa.
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country
would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors
alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats
was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a
school when the attack occurred.
"Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons
are still there to repeat what happened," bin Laden tells Americans.
THERE IS MY PET GOAT REFERENCE. DID MICHAEL MOORE GIVE OSAMA A COPY OF
FAHRENHEIT 9/11?
He downloaded it off the net. Bush is all talk, except when it comes to
sending troops to invade an oil-rich country, that didn't pose a threat to
us.
Over 3 Years, and Osama is still making videos!
Yea, and the US rushed into Iraq (after 12 years). UBL has been killing
Americans for over 12 years but that's OK, it's only the last 3 that count
because Bush is the first to go after him.
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kurttrail
2004-10-29 22:14:37 UTC
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Post by All Patriots
Post by kurttrail
Post by digitman
On 29 Oct 2004 20:41:03 GMT, False Document
Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes
out just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al
qaqaa.
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country
would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors
alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her
goats was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's
visit to a school when the attack occurred.
"Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the
reasons are still there to repeat what happened," bin Laden tells
Americans.
THERE IS MY PET GOAT REFERENCE. DID MICHAEL MOORE GIVE OSAMA A COPY
OF FAHRENHEIT 9/11?
He downloaded it off the net. Bush is all talk, except when it
comes to sending troops to invade an oil-rich country, that didn't
pose a threat to us.
Over 3 Years, and Osama is still making videos!
Yea, and the US rushed into Iraq (after 12 years). UBL has been
killing Americans for over 12 years but that's OK, it's only the last
3 that count because Bush is the first to go after him.
Well if you really want to go back in History, it was a Republican
Administration that supported both Saddam and Osama. Gave them
intelligence, arms and training.
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Cosmo
2004-10-30 02:01:18 UTC
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Post by All Patriots
Post by kurttrail
Post by digitman
On 29 Oct 2004 20:41:03 GMT, False Document
Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes
out just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al
qaqaa.
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country
would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors
alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats
was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a
school when the attack occurred.
"Despite entering the fourth year after Sept. 11, Bush is still
deceiving you and hiding the truth from you and therefore the reasons
are still there to repeat what happened," bin Laden tells Americans.
THERE IS MY PET GOAT REFERENCE. DID MICHAEL MOORE GIVE OSAMA A COPY OF
FAHRENHEIT 9/11?
He downloaded it off the net. Bush is all talk, except when it comes to
sending troops to invade an oil-rich country, that didn't pose a threat to
us.
Over 3 Years, and Osama is still making videos!
Yea, and the US rushed into Iraq (after 12 years). UBL has been killing
Americans for over 12 years but that's OK, it's only the last 3 that count
because Bush is the first to go after him.
With the full force of the American militray, and global depolyment of
hundreds of thousands, it's plain to see, bush has simply mis-managed.
Saddam did not attack us, he was an impotent old dictator that needed to be
dealt with, but Osama and his Alqueada was the immediate threat. You said it
in your post.

You wrote this.

"Yea, and the US rushed into Iraq (after 12 years).

12 years of deterence. 12 years of Saddam shooting a gun from a balcony. 12
years of srcutiny and sucessful inpections and destruction of weapons. There
were countries supplying inspectors and watchdogs all over his land. He was
handcuffed, and no real threat, but your own account, 12 years of
blustering, amounting to a small scale cold war.


UBL has been killing
Post by All Patriots
Americans for over 12 years but that's OK, it's only the last 3 that count
because Bush is the first to go after him"
The last 3 years are the focal point of Bush's war on terror. We were
attacked by Bin Laden, Not Saddam. Saddam sitting in a jail cell is not the
man who sent you his calling card today.

Osama, the man Bush told you, killed 3,000 Americans is free, the man who
didn't is in jail. Wrong war, wrong priority, and now we may pay the price
again because of Bush being wrong about everything. Saddam could have been
dealt with as a second prioritry. 9-11 and todays tape proves bushs wrong,
terrible approach to "His war" on terror. He named it, started, it, then
divderted to the wrong area of the globe. Had he put the strength he put in
Iraq in Afgahistan, Or saudia Arabia, Osama would not be making tapes.

Look, Bush ignored his generals, his advisors, and the advice of people
experienced in warfare to go with his gut feellings. Today you got a tape
from his gut, telling you exactly how wrong that gut was. Bush and his gut
have failed every step of the way, you know it, but your GOP foolish pride
will not allow you to admit it. And America may suffer agin because.

You re-elect Bush, then when Osama hits you again, it will be to late to
vote him out. The balance of america hangs in the balance of you swallowing
your pride, quit excusing major mistakes and take action for you country. A
vote for Bush is a vote for the GOP not America.
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TarzesQuantz
2004-10-29 21:40:20 UTC
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Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.
IT HAS MORE THAN KARL ROVE'S "FINGERPRINTS". IT HAS HIS STINK ABOUT IT.
THIS IS THE "OCTOBER SURPRISE". The tape is a phony, intended to
stampede the fearful to "support our fearless leader" because only He
can protect us against Bin Laden & the terrorists. It is patently
obvious that the tape was planted by Rove's surrogates as a
last-minute ploy to affect the election.
kurttrail
2004-10-29 21:52:55 UTC
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Post by TarzesQuantz
Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes
out just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al
qaqaa.
IT HAS MORE THAN KARL ROVE'S "FINGERPRINTS". IT HAS HIS STINK ABOUT
IT. THIS IS THE "OCTOBER SURPRISE". The tape is a phony, intended to
stampede the fearful to "support our fearless leader" because only He
can protect us against Bin Laden & the terrorists. It is patently
obvious that the tape was planted by Rove's surrogates as a
last-minute ploy to affect the election.
The tape is real, and all it does is point out that Iraq was a mistake while
Osama still roams free 3 years after 911.

Now we have to wait and see if Bush raises the terror alert to quash voter
turnout.
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Geo
2004-10-29 20:57:21 UTC
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Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.
Oh cheese, here we go again with the Karl Rove conspiracy theories.
Aren't you still trying to piece together the CBS/Rove/forged documents
conspiracy?
Frank Pittel
2004-10-29 21:29:10 UTC
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In alt.politics.usa.republican False Document <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
: ***@go.com (MrPepper11) wrote in
: news:***@posting.google.com:

: > Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
: > 'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
: > MSNBC and NBC News
: > Oct. 29, 2004
: >
: This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
: just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.


You've got your tinfoil hat on to tight.
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Cosmo
2004-10-30 01:25:18 UTC
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Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.
If it was just that, But Cheney's being investigated, we killed 100,000
innocent people, Bush has been making self incriminating statements for a
week, Rudy fcked up on national TV, the polls have been going the wrong way
for bush, republican voter fraud again, Bush has resorted to pandering
democratic votes with Zell Miller, and his campagn was in damage control.

He needed a break from the nad news to regroup, and just as Osama gave us
9-11, now he delivers for Bush again.

I hope sane and rational people can see this for wht it is, and remember
everytim Bush has been on the skids, either Osama or terror has put him back
on track. This is to obvious and an insult to the collective mind and spirit
of the American People. We can do better.

This has Porter Goss and Dick Cheney's finerprints all over it.
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Sir Cumference
2004-10-30 02:35:19 UTC
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Post by False Document
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
This has Karl Rove's fingerprints all over it. Funny how this comes out
just as the shit is hitting the fan over the munitions at al qaqaa.
Yea, ole Rove dressed up like bin Laden and can speak perfect Arabic.
Bush's (5-2)=7
2004-10-29 20:52:11 UTC
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Thank you, I will pick Kerry then.



"MrPepper11" <***@go.com> wrote in message news:***@posting.google.com...
| Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
| 'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
| MSNBC and NBC News
| Oct. 29, 2004
|
| Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
| Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
| avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
| attacks in the United States.
|
| U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
| tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
| people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
| raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
| because it makes no specific threat.
|
| Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
| had received the tape.
|
| The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
| appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
| mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
| believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
|
| The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
| a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
| Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
| Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
| strike the United States and its allies.
|
| --------
|
| "I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
| dead or alive.'"
| - George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
|
| "I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
| not that concerned about him."
| - George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
Cosmo
2004-10-29 20:56:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic if
Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he promised. Bush
screwed up, got us attacked, then has done everthing but catch the guy who
he said done it. In the meantim, Bus has killed 1100 American kids, and
100,000 innocent people in Iraq. What a bullshit artsis Bush is.
digitman
2004-10-29 22:02:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cosmo
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic if
Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he promised. Bush
screwed up, got us attacked, then has done everthing but catch the guy who
he said done it. In the meantim, Bus has killed 1100 American kids, and
100,000 innocent people in Iraq. What a bullshit artsis Bush is.
OSAMA: YOU"RE SOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARY. YOU'RE SCARING OUR CHILDREN TO
DEATH ON HALLOWEEN. WE"RE ALL SCARED SHITLESS NOW.
PRESIDENT BUSH: SAVE US FROM THIS SCARY TERRORIST MUSLIM
Cosmo
2004-10-30 01:15:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by digitman
Post by Cosmo
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic if
Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he promised. Bush
screwed up, got us attacked, then has done everthing but catch the guy who
he said done it. In the meantim, Bus has killed 1100 American kids, and
100,000 innocent people in Iraq. What a bullshit artsis Bush is.
OSAMA: YOU"RE SOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARY. YOU'RE SCARING OUR CHILDREN TO
DEATH ON HALLOWEEN. WE"RE ALL SCARED SHITLESS NOW.
PRESIDENT BUSH: SAVE US FROM THIS SCARY TERRORIST MUSLIM
I wonder who paid for O'sama studio time, Bush, BaKKKer or Cheney, or the
taxpayers? Do they think we really even belive this after 4 years of
bullshit? They don't even make good efforts.
Igor
2004-10-30 03:44:58 UTC
Permalink
Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks
Arabic had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.

Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he took
from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
Post by Cosmo
Post by digitman
Post by Cosmo
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic if
Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he promised. Bush
screwed up, got us attacked, then has done everthing but catch the guy who
he said done it. In the meantim, Bus has killed 1100 American kids, and
100,000 innocent people in Iraq. What a bullshit artsis Bush is.
OSAMA: YOU"RE SOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARY. YOU'RE SCARING OUR CHILDREN TO
DEATH ON HALLOWEEN. WE"RE ALL SCARED SHITLESS NOW.
PRESIDENT BUSH: SAVE US FROM THIS SCARY TERRORIST MUSLIM
I wonder who paid for O'sama studio time, Bush, BaKKKer or Cheney, or the
taxpayers? Do they think we really even belive this after 4 years of
bullshit? They don't even make good efforts.
kurttrail
2004-10-30 04:31:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Igor
Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks
Arabic had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.
Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he
took from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
He downloaded it off the internet.

"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'" - George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001

He choose alive by going to Iraq!

"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him." - George W. Bush, March 13, 2002

Obviously! He was more concerned about Saddam!

"And so long as I am your president, we'll be determined and steadfast, and
we will keep the terrorists on the run." - George W. Bush, Oct. 29, 2004

With Bush, Osama doesn't look like he is even jogging. It looked like he
gained weight.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
Cosmo
2004-10-30 04:48:39 UTC
Permalink
Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks Arabic
had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.
Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he took
from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
I think he is a major Bush fan, business partner and close family friend.
Bush got his family out of the country. Bush has exempted his home land from
the war on terror, even though Osama and 15 of the hijackers are from Saudi
Arabia, Bush remains close friends with the Crowned Princes, and did not
object to the Saudi's 30 day amnesty program for international terorists.
Instead of deploying his huge army to close off the Pakistan, Afghan Border,
to keep Osama and Al queada from having safe passage, Bush has a total of
12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.

Bush purchased the coperation and the silence of Pakistans militray dictator
with a down payment of 2 billion dollars. Why, why did he not boss or
threaten Parves Musharef around like he did Saddam, instead, he bought him.
So why is the border still the gateway to terror if Bush owns Musharef, and
occupys Afghanistan, given that situation, he should have caught Osaama by
now, he told us this stratedy would do it, but it has not.

Now, you did the exact same thing all republicans do, you said Mike Moore,
without addressing Bush's casual attittude from todays tape. Bush Gave it a
quick glance, then treated it as a "Niussance", nothing more. He did
nothing. He did not go to work. He went to hang out with Arnold, and ignored
the man who Bombed us. Mike Mooredid not do that, george Bush did.

So, I hav a propsittion for you. You debate me. Refute my assertions, and
prove me wrong with yours. We can do it, right now, Bring it on as Bush used
to say. I welcome your eply, but in the tradition of republicans in this
group, do not expect it.

Not one of you will debate the facts, you only make lame excsues for your
leader, leave or change the subject. This is more than just typing Moores
name, these are issues. I ask you to debate me, now.

In closing, since you like Mike Moore so much, keep in mind, Mike Moore was
not president when the gang from Saudi Arabia taacked us on 9-11-01, Bush
was. If Bush had not allowed us to get attacked, there would have been
nothing for Mike Moore to make his movie about. 9-11 would have been just
another day. Your turn.
Post by Cosmo
Post by digitman
Post by Cosmo
Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
MSNBC and NBC News
Oct. 29, 2004
Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, in a videotape broadcast Friday on
Al-Jazeera television, promised a new message on "the best way to
avoid another Manhattan," a clear reference to the Sept. 11, 2001,
attacks in the United States.
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you." They said there was no plan to
raise the terrorist threat level, currently at yellow, or "elevated,"
because it makes no specific threat.
Neither the Qatar-based channel nor U.S. officials would say how it
had received the tape.
The last authenticated contemporaneous video message from bin Laden
appeared in December 2001, when he discussed a U.S. attack on a
mosque. U.S. officials said all subsequent videos of bin Laden were
believed to have been recorded earlier and broadcast much later.
The last audio message from bin Laden was on April 15, when he offered
a truce to European nations if they removed their troops from the
Middle East within 90 days. On Oct. 1, bin Laden's second-in-command,
Ayman al-Zawahri, issued an audiotape calling on young Muslims to
strike the United States and its allies.
--------
"I want justice. There's an old poster out West that said: 'Wanted,
dead or alive.'"
- George W. Bush, Sept. 17, 2001
"I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am
not that concerned about him."
- George W. Bush, March 13, 2002
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic if
Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he promised. Bush
screwed up, got us attacked, then has done everthing but catch the guy who
he said done it. In the meantim, Bus has killed 1100 American kids, and
100,000 innocent people in Iraq. What a bullshit artsis Bush is.
OSAMA: YOU"RE SOOOOOOOOOOOO SCARY. YOU'RE SCARING OUR CHILDREN TO
DEATH ON HALLOWEEN. WE"RE ALL SCARED SHITLESS NOW.
PRESIDENT BUSH: SAVE US FROM THIS SCARY TERRORIST MUSLIM
I wonder who paid for O'sama studio time, Bush, BaKKKer or Cheney, or the
taxpayers? Do they think we really even belive this after 4 years of
bullshit? They don't even make good efforts.
Igor
2004-10-30 06:35:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cosmo
Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks Arabic
had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.
Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he took
from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
I think he is a major Bush fan, business partner and close family friend.
Bush got his family out of the country.
These people had no connections to Bin Laden and had disowned him. They
left on a day when many others who had been cleared left.

Do you think the US should have held them hostage and sent pictures to
Bin Laden of Navy seals with guns to their heads demanding Bin Laden
surrender or they will behead them?
Post by Cosmo
Bush has exempted his home land from
the war on terror, even though Osama and 15 of the hijackers are from Saudi
Arabia, Bush remains close friends with the Crowned Princes, and did not
object to the Saudi's 30 day amnesty program for international terorists.
There have been close ties to Saudi Arabia since the 1930's when Aramco
was formed. Prince Bandar and the other high ranking Saudis had the same
relation with Clinton. The US knows Saudi could hurt us bad by cutting
of oil or they could help us by influencing OPEC. Just because 15 high
jackers were Saudis does not mean the Saudi government played a role in
the attacks. That is a stupid as saying just because John Walker Lynn
and Adam Gardhan are Americans and part of Al Qaedea that the US
government is supporting Al Qaedea or that because McNichols was an
American that the government encouraged him to bomb the Federal building
in Oaklahhoma city.
Post by Cosmo
Instead of deploying his huge army to close off the Pakistan, Afghan Border,
to keep Osama and Al queada from having safe passage, Bush has a total of
12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.
No resources were diverted. Tommy Franks has confirmed this.
Surprisingly 140,000 regualr troops is not more effective than a few
special forces guys. Bin Laden is not out in the opening walking around
on the streets or in some huge compound that is hard to miss. This is a
special forces operation. There are more special forces in Afghanistan
than Iraq. You need special forces that can blend in and do things like
ride horses into areas veicheles can not reach. To catch Bin Laden you
have to practice unconvential warfare that is what special ops are
trained to do.

I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat came
from the scene in Moore's movie. It is well known that Moore recieved
money from terrorist linked to Al Qadea and sold the film to them so
they could use it as propoganda.
Cosmo
2004-10-30 08:30:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Igor
Post by Cosmo
Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks Arabic
had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.
Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he took
from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
I think he is a major Bush fan, business partner and close family friend.
Bush got his family out of the country.
These people had no connections to Bin Laden and had disowned him. They
left on a day when many others who had been cleared left.
That is the story the state department told you. These people have a sense
of family that is a bond, he was never disowned. Ill prove it. After 9-11
the state depratment said they had proof that Bin Laden called his mother
and said he would be gone for a long time? Both state dept stories that
contradict each other, he was disowned, but he called his mom. I have swiss
cheese with less holes than that sorry story.

And, the US goverment rounded up hundreds of Arab americans, Doctors,
business men and students, detained them and questioned them, some have
never been released, but the family of Osama was never held, detained or
questioned.
Post by Igor
Do you think the US should have held them hostage and sent pictures to Bin
Laden of Navy seals with guns to their heads demanding Bin Laden surrender
or they will behead them?
No. I never considered that. Navy seals? You came from distnat right field
with that. You have a vilolent imagination.
Post by Igor
Post by Cosmo
Bush has exempted his home land from
the war on terror, even though Osama and 15 of the hijackers are from
Saudi Arabia, Bush remains close friends with the Crowned Princes, and
did not object to the Saudi's 30 day amnesty program for international
terorists.
There have been close ties to Saudi Arabia since the 1930's
We used to be enemies with germany and japan, but no lioner are, so what
does the 30's have to do with things. The world has changesd slighly since
then. Ancient history.


when Aramco
Post by Igor
was formed. Prince Bandar and the other high ranking Saudis had the same
relation with Clinton.
Impossibe, Billl Clinton is not an oil broker. Bill Clinton was active in
the middle east peace process, so he knew them all. Bill Clinton did not
have an oil relationship, but a diplomatic one, so don't say it;s the same,
thats just stupid.


The US knows Saudi could hurt us bad by cutting
Post by Igor
of oil or they could help us by influencing OPEC.
So, you admit bush took it easy on them for their oil.


Just because 15 high
Post by Igor
jackers were Saudis does not mean the Saudi government played a role in
the attacks.
I can't belive you said that. You and two other people still believe that.
Hers why that's dumb. Saudi Arabia is a part of State sponsered terror.
It's no secret, so 15 terrorists come from the state of state sponsered
terror, and you dismiss that as coincidence. You're either a crazy or just
in total denial.



That is a stupid as saying just because John Walker Lynn
Post by Igor
and Adam Gardhan are Americans and part of Al Qaedea that the US
government is supporting Al Qaedea or that because McNichols was an
American that the government encouraged him to bomb the Federal building
in Oaklahhoma city.
No, because the USA is not a purveyor of State sponsered terror, Saudi
Abrbia, Pakitan and Afghanistan are. Don't compare apples with oranges. it
makes you seem very uninformed. When you try to make your case using a false
postulate, you look really dumb.


of
Post by Igor
Post by Cosmo
12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.
No resources were diverted.
What?


Tommy Franks has confirmed this.

What does that have to do with troop strength. So you are saying 12,000 can
do the job of 140,000?
Post by Igor
Surprisingly 140,000 regualr troops is not more effective than a few
special forces guys.
That's total bullshit. Im an old soldier, tell that shit to a rookie. But it
is not surprsing to realize you just made one of the dumbest statments about
militray force of all time. I woul'd be interested to know your service
experience. because with that stament it looks limited to movies and games.
Thst funny, you have no conception of 140,000 troops. Picture 4-5 super bowl
crowds and you will still be short. LOL,. I can't believe you said that.
Specail forces are efficient in special operation, but it takes man power to
guard internatinal borders, and keep them supplied. Chrsi, are you guys this
ignorant? Trying to bullshit an old soldier like me.



Bin Laden is not out in the opening walking around
Post by Igor
on the streets or in some huge compound that is hard to miss.
How do you know that? If Bush does not know where he is, you don't. He has
bad kidneys, he has to have frequent dialysis. he is visible somehwere.


This is a
Post by Igor
special forces operation.
It takes manpower to cover boaders special operations. Let me set you
straight. You watch to many action movies.
If you were going to guard or protect the Afhgan/Pakistan border, that is
not a special forces operation. is a mass miliiraty operation. I'll give you
an example. Between the Pkisatn and Indian border, between the tw, they keep
1 million meb depolyed. Now, tell ne some of your GI joe spec op stories.



There are more special forces in Afghanistan
Post by Igor
than Iraq. You need special forces that can blend in and do things like
ride horses into areas veicheles can not reach. To catch Bin Laden you
have to practice unconvential warfare that is what special ops are trained
to do.
That's special operations nitwit, not guarding the border to prevent passge.
You can ride horses. you can blend in, but that will not prevent safe
passgae of intetntional terror between Pakistan and Afgahnistan. And, there
are not that many in Agfhnistan anyway, Riding horses and gathing intell is
your a big part of your imagination.

You know who really makes the bulk of our troops in Afganisatn? Mortar men.
Artillary, armor truck drivers, and grunts on who patrol. Ill tell you
something else about the 12,000. Many of then are support personel. Supply,
mess, clerks, etc. it's called Logistics.

For evry operation, there is a Logistic command. When I was in Vietnam, the
1st Logistic Command was at Long Bihn, it supplied the 1 Corp. And it was
huge.

An army canot operate without soldiers logistics, it's the meat and potatos
of any military. Soldiers need to be fed, clothed, re-supplied and they
need to be rotated for rest. So how many of them do you think ride horses?
Out of 12,000, a handfull. Your head is in the sky. Ever been to war? If so,
you would know what goes on behind the scene requires as many men as the
front does.
Post by Igor
I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat came
from the scene in Moore's movie.
No, the goat thing has been known about since the day it happenned. Osama
knew about it long before Moore, and ill tell you why. I have extensive
files about 9-11. Clips pic's and Doc's. In my files, I have the video clip
made by an English newscaster about Bushs 7 minutes. It shows the entire 7
minutes, and shows the goat book. The broadcaster nararates the entire
clip. This was from the UK, and long before Mikes movie.

It is well known that Moore recieved
Post by Igor
money from terrorist linked to Al Qadea and sold the film to them so they
could use it as propoganda.
That a terrible lie to tell buddy. Mike has never collaberted with terror.
He did not need their money. All mIke has to do is send his scripts, and
producers start sending him checks. You know whatts well known, Bush's
collaberation and protection of the state that sposnsered the Attacks, Saudi
Arabia. Wait untill the 28 pages come to light, you'll kill yourselfwhne
you see who you are defending.
Igor
2004-10-30 19:51:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cosmo
Post by Igor
Post by Cosmo
Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks Arabic
had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.
Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he took
from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
I think he is a major Bush fan, business partner and close family friend.
Bush got his family out of the country.
These people had no connections to Bin Laden and had disowned him. They
left on a day when many others who had been cleared left.
That is the story the state department told you. These people have a sense
of family that is a bond, he was never disowned. Ill prove it. After 9-11
the state depratment said they had proof that Bin Laden called his mother
and said he would be gone for a long time? Both state dept stories that
contradict each other, he was disowned, but he called his mom. I have swiss
cheese with less holes than that sorry story.
Proof!! You heard it on the internet. That is proof. Conflicting stories
but you have proof he called his mom. Disowned children do contact their
family on occassion.
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And, the US goverment rounded up hundreds of Arab americans, Doctors,
business men and students, detained them and questioned them, some have
never been released, but the family of Osama was never held, detained or
questioned.
Proof? A citation? Did you see this in Micheal Moore's movie. Many
people were allowed to leave that day. It was the first day the
administration let people who had been cleared leave. Bush did not let
Bin Laden's relatives leave before anyone else.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5251769/site/newsweek/
"Saudi flights out of the United States. The movie claims that in the
days after 9/11, when airspace was shut down, the White House approved
special charter flights so that prominent Saudis—including members of
the bin Laden family—could leave the country. Author Craig Unger
appears, claiming that bin Laden family members were never interviewed
by the FBI. Not true, according to a recent report from the 9/11 panel.
The report confirms that six chartered airplanes flew 142 mostly Saudi
nationals out of the country, including one carrying members of the bin
Laden family. But the flights didn't begin until Sept. 14—after airspace
reopened. Moreover, the report states the Saudi flights were screened by
the FBI, and 22 of the 26 people on the bin Laden flight were
interviewed. None had any links to terrorism."

Screened by the FBI and they left after the airspace ban was lifted.
Micheal Moore is a liar who is trying to stir up nutcase conspiracy
theorist.
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Do you think the US should have held them hostage and sent pictures to Bin
Laden of Navy seals with guns to their heads demanding Bin Laden surrender
or they will behead them?
No. I never considered that. Navy seals? You came from distnat right field
with that. You have a vilolent imagination.
No imagination. This is exactly what the terrorist do. They take
pictures of guerilla fighters with guns to people's family members and
threaten to behead if they do not do want they want. I am simply asking
do you want the US to act like terrorist.
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There have been close ties to Saudi Arabia since the 1930's
We used to be enemies with germany and japan, but no lioner are, so what
does the 30's have to do with things. The world has changesd slighly since
then. Ancient history.
No it is not it shows continual relationships under many
administrations. It is ancient history to you because it does not fit
your viewpoint.
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when Aramco
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was formed. Prince Bandar and the other high ranking Saudis had the same
relation with Clinton.
Impossibe, Billl Clinton is not an oil broker. Bill Clinton was active in
the middle east peace process, so he knew them all. Bill Clinton did not
have an oil relationship, but a diplomatic one, so don't say it;s the same,
thats just stupid.
Clinton had just as strong an oil relationship with Saudi Arabia. Do not
think for a moment another oil embargo would not send our economy
spiraling down. Saudi has control over a good percentage of resources
and has influence in OPEC. Venzuala is the second largest and every
president since the 1930's has been very careful about the relationship
with that country to. FOR THE SAME REASON.
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The US knows Saudi could hurt us bad by cutting
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of oil or they could help us by influencing OPEC.
So, you admit bush took it easy on them for their oil.
No relations are important. The Saudis have not directly sponsored
terrorism. There is no reason to impinge on them. If you think Bush took
it easy on them then Clinton did too.
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Just because 15 high
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jackers were Saudis does not mean the Saudi government played a role in
the attacks.
I can't belive you said that. You and two other people still believe that.
Hers why that's dumb. Saudi Arabia is a part of State sponsered terror.
Proof. You are talking out your backside here.
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It's no secret, so 15 terrorists come from the state of state sponsered
terror, and you dismiss that as coincidence. You're either a crazy or just
in total denial.
Yeah the US government sponsored Timothy McVeigh and Nichols guy. Just
because they were responsible for Oaklahoma and their group was made up
of Americas must mean that Bill Clinton sponsored the Oklahoma city
bombing. Let me guess because people from Arkansas do not like people
from Oaklahoma. This is absurd.

Prove the king, the crown prince, or any Saudi offical supports Bin
Laden. You are such an idiot you do not know that BIN LADEN HATES THE
SAUDI GOVERNMENT AND WANTS TO BRING IT DOWN. BIN LADEN BELIEVES THE
SAUDI GOVERNMENT GIVES INTO THE US. The highjackers did not like the
Saudi government much more than the US. Bin Laden broke from Saudi
because they supported the US in the Gulf war. He believes the US is
trying to take over the region and the Saudi government is helping them.

He does not like the fact American military are covertly stationed in
Saudi under the auspices of the Saudi government. The Saudi airforce is
US pilots and US planes. We sold them the planes but we also provide the
pilots. The largest US airforce base is outside of Dharhan.
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That is a stupid as saying just because John Walker Lynn
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and Adam Gardhan are Americans and part of Al Qaedea that the US
government is supporting Al Qaedea or that because McNichols was an
American that the government encouraged him to bomb the Federal building
in Oaklahhoma city.
No, because the USA is not a purveyor of State sponsered terror, Saudi
Abrbia, Pakitan and Afghanistan are.
Prove the King or the Saudi government has financed ANY terrorist
organisation. Just because your monthly conspiracy theory news letter
says the Saudis sponsor Bin Laden does not make it so. Bin Laden hates
the Saudi government and would like to see it replaced.
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12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.
No resources were diverted.
What?
Tommy Franks has confirmed this.
What does that have to do with troop strength. So you are saying 12,000 can
do the job of 140,000?
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Surprisingly 140,000 regualr troops is not more effective than a few
special forces guys.
That's total bullshit. Im an old soldier, tell that shit to a rookie.
Were in the special forces? Do you know there training is much different
and the roles they play on the battlefield are different. This is not
WWII were the rangers go up front. A modern military knows how to use
the special characteristics of special forces to full advantage. Why do
you think they call them special forces? Because they recieve special
training and they use special tactics. A normal soldier is not trained
the same way. Tell a Ranger some day that he has the same training as
everyone else and see what response you get.

Regular army units are not trained for these operations. They never have
been.

But it
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is not surprsing to realize you just made one of the dumbest statments about
militray force of all time. I woul'd be interested to know your service
experience. because with that stament it looks limited to movies and games.
Thst funny, you have no conception of 140,000 troops. Picture 4-5 super bowl
crowds and you will still be short. LOL,. I can't believe you said that.
Specail forces are efficient in special operation, but it takes man power to
guard internatinal borders, and keep them supplied. Chrsi, are you guys this
ignorant? Trying to bullshit an old soldier like me.
What difference does it make if 140,000 troops guard a border. At that
number you have huge gaps in the Pakistan/Afghanistan borders. They do
not have training or equiptment to do things like climb mountains and
find non obvious passes. 140,000 troops on a border mean they are
sitting around twiddling their thumbs chatting about what they will do
when they get home not looking for someone. Osamma could pass right
through a checkpoint without anyone knowing. He could hop on a donkey
and go through a mountain pass that modern military veicheles can not
get to.

It takes special forces with equiptment, training, and experience in
tracking and extraditing scumbags like this to pull the job off. Not
someone who completed basic and gets wants to get back home. I do not
mean the knock the common soldier. They have good training at what they
are trained to do. They are most effective fighting force in the world.
The problem is they are not trained to hunt one man. They are trained to
fight an army. They are not trained to patrol borders or be police men.
They are trained to engage an enemy ARMY and destroy it.

Specialized froces are trained to hunt one man.
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Bin Laden is not out in the opening walking around
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on the streets or in some huge compound that is hard to miss.
How do you know that? If Bush does not know where he is, you don't. He has
bad kidneys, he has to have frequent dialysis. he is visible somehwere.
You don't think he could not have bought a dialysis machine and a
private doctor to take care of him where he is hiding? Oh course he
would not have the money to do that would he?
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This is a
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special forces operation.
It takes manpower to cover boaders special operations. Let me set you
straight. You watch to many action movies.
Cover borders? We can't even stop tens of thousands of illegal aliens
from crossing our borders with much more than 140,000 border patrol
guards. Why the heck do you think 140,000 men patroling a border can
stop 1 man. How do you even know he would cross a border. You need
trackers with specialized equiptment. That means recon units and special
forces not common soldiers.

Now in Iraq you had a traditional war. There is the army it is too big
to miss. We know the army we know where it is. The goal is to engage the
Army and break its will to fight. That is what a common soldier is
trained to do and did effectively.
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If you were going to guard or protect the Afhgan/Pakistan border, that is
not a special forces operation.
Nor would it work. The US can not stop 10,000 of thousands illegal
aliens from coming through. How will border patrols stop 1 man.
Thousands of SS and Nazi war criminals slipped right passed over one
million soldiers patroling Germany's border after WWII. One man can
easily do it. Some of them popped into US military veicheles such as
truck distributing stars and stripes. These veicheles were not searched.
Border patrols are easy to pass.
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is a mass miliiraty operation. I'll give you
an example. Between the Pkisatn and Indian border, between the tw, they keep
1 million meb depolyed. Now, tell ne some of your GI joe spec op stories.
And how many people are actually stopped from crossing the border? Many
still cross between the borders. Hundreds of thousands patroled East
Germany's borders. They even had a wall and miles of wire. People still
got over to the west.
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There are more special forces in Afghanistan
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than Iraq. You need special forces that can blend in and do things like
ride horses into areas veicheles can not reach. To catch Bin Laden you
have to practice unconvential warfare that is what special ops are trained
to do.
That's special operations nitwit, not guarding the border to prevent passge.
Which is completely ineffective. NO POWER EVER HAS STOPPED UNWANTED
TRAFFIC THROUGH PATROLS.
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You can ride horses. you can blend in, but that will not prevent safe
passgae of intetntional terror between Pakistan and Afgahnistan.
Perhaps not but these people know how to track the terrorist and take
them out. If the terrorist slipp into the Pakistan border Special ops
can track them and get them. If they slip past the border patrol no one
ever knows or cares. Once someone passes the border those soldiers are
no longer responisible.
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And, there
are not that many in Agfhnistan anyway, Riding horses and gathing intell is
your a big part of your imagination.
Yeah right. You know what the seals and Rangers are doing there and I do
not.
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You know who really makes the bulk of our troops in Afganisatn? Mortar men.
Artillary, armor truck drivers, and grunts on who patrol. Ill tell you
something else about the 12,000. Many of then are support personel. Supply,
mess, clerks, etc. it's called Logistics.
Try the Northern Alliance. Afghanistan was Kosovo again. The US put very
troops in to support the northern alliance. There were never more a few
dozen on the ground. The Northern alliance did the bulk of the fighting.
Most special forces were ground observers who directed air strikes. This
gave the Northern Alliance the edge to finally defeat the Taliban. The
US never made a significant troop contribution to Afghanistan. From day
1 until now it has been a purely special ops mission. Special ops were
sent to assist the Northern alliance and hunt Bin Laden. Where do you
think the info for airstrikes on Bin Laden's caves came from. Men on the
ground giving info on where to bomb.
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For evry operation, there is a Logistic command. When I was in Vietnam, the
1st Logistic Command was at Long Bihn, it supplied the 1 Corp. And it was
huge.
An army canot operate without soldiers logistics, it's the meat and potatos
of any military. Soldiers need to be fed, clothed, re-supplied and they
need to be rotated for rest. So how many of them do you think ride horses?
Out of 12,000, a handfull. Your head is in the sky. Ever been to war? If so,
you would know what goes on behind the scene requires as many men as the
front does.
This is true. You are proving my point exactly. To hunt and track down
an enemy hidding in caves you can't go in with trucks and M1 Abrahms.
You have to use primitive technology so you can traverse rough terrian.
One million men would not be more effective. A large portion would
logistics and only a small fraction would have the training and
equiptment necessary to go into the mountains and hunt down Al Qadea.

A bunch of guys in tanks and Bradleys does little because the tanks nor
the Bradleys can go into the rough terrain and get where the enemy is.
You need special forces for that. A handful of special forces who have
the equiptment to track and go anywhere is much more effective than one
million men who can not enter the mountains in their veicheles and do
not have the gear to cross the mountains. You need mountain units and
special OPs. The US HAS NEVER HAD MORE THAN ONE MOUNTAIN DIVISION AT ANY
POINT IN TIME.
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I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat came
from the scene in Moore's movie.
No, the goat thing has been known about since the day it happenned. Osama
knew about it long before Moore, and ill tell you why. I have extensive
files about 9-11. Clips pic's and Doc's. In my files, I have the video clip
made by an English newscaster about Bushs 7 minutes. It shows the entire 7
minutes, and shows the goat book. The broadcaster nararates the entire
clip. This was from the UK, and long before Mikes movie.
This just reeks of a conspiracy theorist loon. Keeping all sorts of
files of newsreel to prove a conspiracy. What did you expect Bush to do
yell Holy shit and look completely out of control. He had to give the
public a sense that things were under control and there was no need to
panic. If Secret Services guys had swept in and pulled the President out
do you not think that would have caused panic?
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It is well known that Moore recieved
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money from terrorist linked to Al Qadea and sold the film to them so they
could use it as propoganda.
That a terrible lie to tell buddy. Mike has never collaberted with terror.
He did not need their money.
Wrong it is documented he said that he did not care if a terrorist group
bought the film to show in places like Syria. He was on record saying he
did not care if the subsidary that bought the film in the middle east
had terrorist ties.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157503/posts
SACRAMENTO) – The distribution company releasing Michael Moore’s
propaganda flick, “Fahrenheit 9/11,” Front Row Entertainment, say they
won’t reject offers of assistance from the terrorist group, Hezbollah.

The movie industry publication Screen Daily reports:

“In terms of marketing the film, Front Row is getting a boost from
organizations related to Hezbollah which have rung up from Lebanon to
ask if there’s anything they can do to support the film.

Front Row managing director, Gianluca Chacra is then quoted in the
Screen Daily story as saying:

“We can’t go against these organizations as they could strongly boycott
the film in Lebanon and Syria.”

Move America Forward Vice Chair, Melanie Morgan said in response,
“Michael Moore dismisses Americans who are upset with his film and the
impact it has in undermining support for the war against terrorism. At
the same time, his distribution companies are concerned about offending
the sensibilities of terrorists. That certainly gives rise to asking the
question: whose side are you on?”

Separately, in an interview with the Canadian television network, CHUM
TV, Moore said that he is finding resistance from American movie theater
chains as he tries to secure commitments to screen “Fahrenheit 9/11.”
Moore says at least three national/regional chains won’t carry the film
and others are expressing reservations.

An audio clip of Mr. Moore’s comments related to the resistance he is
meeting from U.S. theater operators can be found on the Move America
Forward website at:
www.MoveAmericaForward.org/MichaelMoore"
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All mIke has to do is send his scripts, and
producers start sending him checks. You know whatts well known, Bush's
collaberation and protection of the state that sposnsered the Attacks, Saudi
Arabia. Wait untill the 28 pages come to light, you'll kill yourselfwhne
you see who you are defending.
28 pages of what? Some internet conspiracy theory? Micheal Moore's
toilet paper?
Cosmo
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Sorry had to correct the quotation. A former ambassador who speaks
Arabic had said the quotation correctly on the news this evening.
Looks that Osamma is a Micheal Moore fan. Glad to see the money he took
from terrorist allowed Bin Laden to see Farenheit 9/11.
I think he is a major Bush fan, business partner and close family
friend. Bush got his family out of the country.
These people had no connections to Bin Laden and had disowned him. They
left on a day when many others who had been cleared left.
That is the story the state department told you. These people have a
sense of family that is a bond, he was never disowned. Ill prove it.
After 9-11 the state depratment said they had proof that Bin Laden called
his mother and said he would be gone for a long time? Both state dept
stories that contradict each other, he was disowned, but he called his
mom. I have swiss cheese with less holes than that sorry story.
Proof!! You heard it on the internet. That is proof. Conflicting stories
but you have proof he called his mom. Disowned children do contact their
family on occassion.
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And, the US goverment rounded up hundreds of Arab americans, Doctors,
business men and students, detained them and questioned them, some have
never been released, but the family of Osama was never held, detained or
questioned.
Proof? A citation? Did you see this in Micheal Moore's movie. Many people
were allowed to leave that day. It was the first day the administration
let people who had been cleared leave. Bush did not let Bin Laden's
relatives leave before anyone else.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5251769/site/newsweek/
"Saudi flights out of the United States. The movie claims that in the days
after 9/11, when airspace was shut down, the White House approved special
charter flights so that prominent Saudis—including members of the bin
Laden family—could leave the country. Author Craig Unger appears, claiming
that bin Laden family members were never interviewed by the FBI. Not true,
according to a recent report from the 9/11 panel. The report confirms that
six chartered airplanes flew 142 mostly Saudi nationals out of the
country, including one carrying members of the bin Laden family. But the
flights didn't begin until Sept. 14—after airspace reopened. Moreover, the
report states the Saudi flights were screened by the FBI, and 22 of the 26
people on the bin Laden flight were interviewed. None had any links to
terrorism."
Screened by the FBI and they left after the airspace ban was lifted.
Micheal Moore is a liar who is trying to stir up nutcase conspiracy
theorist.
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Do you think the US should have held them hostage and sent pictures to
Bin Laden of Navy seals with guns to their heads demanding Bin Laden
surrender or they will behead them?
No. I never considered that. Navy seals? You came from distnat right
field with that. You have a vilolent imagination.
No imagination. This is exactly what the terrorist do. They take pictures
of guerilla fighters with guns to people's family members and threaten to
behead if they do not do want they want. I am simply asking do you want
the US to act like terrorist.
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There have been close ties to Saudi Arabia since the 1930's
We used to be enemies with germany and japan, but no lioner are, so what
does the 30's have to do with things. The world has changesd slighly
since then. Ancient history.
No it is not it shows continual relationships under many administrations.
It is ancient history to you because it does not fit your viewpoint.
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when Aramco
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was formed. Prince Bandar and the other high ranking Saudis had the same
relation with Clinton.
Impossibe, Billl Clinton is not an oil broker. Bill Clinton was active in
the middle east peace process, so he knew them all. Bill Clinton did not
have an oil relationship, but a diplomatic one, so don't say it;s the
same, thats just stupid.
Clinton had just as strong an oil relationship with Saudi Arabia. Do not
think for a moment another oil embargo would not send our economy
spiraling down. Saudi has control over a good percentage of resources and
has influence in OPEC. Venzuala is the second largest and every president
since the 1930's has been very careful about the relationship with that
country to. FOR THE SAME REASON.
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The US knows Saudi could hurt us bad by cutting
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of oil or they could help us by influencing OPEC.
So, you admit bush took it easy on them for their oil.
No relations are important. The Saudis have not directly sponsored
terrorism. There is no reason to impinge on them. If you think Bush took
it easy on them then Clinton did too.
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Just because 15 high
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jackers were Saudis does not mean the Saudi government played a role in
the attacks.
I can't belive you said that. You and two other people still believe
that. Hers why that's dumb. Saudi Arabia is a part of State sponsered
terror.
Proof. You are talking out your backside here.
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It's no secret, so 15 terrorists come from the state of state sponsered
terror, and you dismiss that as coincidence. You're either a crazy or
just in total denial.
Yeah the US government sponsored Timothy McVeigh and Nichols guy. Just
because they were responsible for Oaklahoma and their group was made up of
Americas must mean that Bill Clinton sponsored the Oklahoma city bombing.
Let me guess because people from Arkansas do not like people from
Oaklahoma. This is absurd.
Prove the king, the crown prince, or any Saudi offical supports Bin Laden.
You are such an idiot you do not know that BIN LADEN HATES THE SAUDI
GOVERNMENT AND WANTS TO BRING IT DOWN. BIN LADEN BELIEVES THE SAUDI
GOVERNMENT GIVES INTO THE US. The highjackers did not like the Saudi
government much more than the US. Bin Laden broke from Saudi because they
supported the US in the Gulf war. He believes the US is trying to take
over the region and the Saudi government is helping them.
He does not like the fact American military are covertly stationed in
Saudi under the auspices of the Saudi government. The Saudi airforce is US
pilots and US planes. We sold them the planes but we also provide the
pilots. The largest US airforce base is outside of Dharhan.
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That is a stupid as saying just because John Walker Lynn
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and Adam Gardhan are Americans and part of Al Qaedea that the US
government is supporting Al Qaedea or that because McNichols was an
American that the government encouraged him to bomb the Federal building
in Oaklahhoma city.
No, because the USA is not a purveyor of State sponsered terror, Saudi
Abrbia, Pakitan and Afghanistan are.
Prove the King or the Saudi government has financed ANY terrorist
organisation. Just because your monthly conspiracy theory news letter says
the Saudis sponsor Bin Laden does not make it so. Bin Laden hates the
Saudi government and would like to see it replaced.
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12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.
No resources were diverted.
What?
Tommy Franks has confirmed this.
What does that have to do with troop strength. So you are saying 12,000
can do the job of 140,000?
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Surprisingly 140,000 regualr troops is not more effective than a few
special forces guys.
That's total bullshit. Im an old soldier, tell that shit to a rookie.
Were in the special forces? Do you know there training is much different
and the roles they play on the battlefield are different. This is not WWII
were the rangers go up front. A modern military knows how to use the
special characteristics of special forces to full advantage. Why do you
think they call them special forces? Because they recieve special training
and they use special tactics. A normal soldier is not trained the same
way. Tell a Ranger some day that he has the same training as everyone else
and see what response you get.
Regular army units are not trained for these operations. They never have
been.
But it
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is not surprsing to realize you just made one of the dumbest statments
about militray force of all time. I woul'd be interested to know your
service experience. because with that stament it looks limited to movies
and games. Thst funny, you have no conception of 140,000 troops. Picture
4-5 super bowl crowds and you will still be short. LOL,. I can't believe
you said that. Specail forces are efficient in special operation, but it
takes man power to guard internatinal borders, and keep them supplied.
Chrsi, are you guys this ignorant? Trying to bullshit an old soldier like
me.
What difference does it make if 140,000 troops guard a border. At that
number you have huge gaps in the Pakistan/Afghanistan borders. They do not
have training or equiptment to do things like climb mountains and find non
obvious passes. 140,000 troops on a border mean they are sitting around
twiddling their thumbs chatting about what they will do when they get home
not looking for someone. Osamma could pass right through a checkpoint
without anyone knowing. He could hop on a donkey and go through a mountain
pass that modern military veicheles can not get to.
It takes special forces with equiptment, training, and experience in
tracking and extraditing scumbags like this to pull the job off. Not
someone who completed basic and gets wants to get back home. I do not mean
the knock the common soldier. They have good training at what they are
trained to do. They are most effective fighting force in the world. The
problem is they are not trained to hunt one man. They are trained to fight
an army. They are not trained to patrol borders or be police men. They are
trained to engage an enemy ARMY and destroy it.
Specialized froces are trained to hunt one man.
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Bin Laden is not out in the opening walking around
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on the streets or in some huge compound that is hard to miss.
How do you know that? If Bush does not know where he is, you don't. He
has bad kidneys, he has to have frequent dialysis. he is visible
somehwere.
You don't think he could not have bought a dialysis machine and a private
doctor to take care of him where he is hiding? Oh course he would not have
the money to do that would he?
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This is a
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special forces operation.
It takes manpower to cover boaders special operations. Let me set you
straight. You watch to many action movies.
Cover borders? We can't even stop tens of thousands of illegal aliens from
crossing our borders with much more than 140,000 border patrol guards. Why
the heck do you think 140,000 men patroling a border can stop 1 man. How
do you even know he would cross a border. You need trackers with
specialized equiptment. That means recon units and special forces not
common soldiers.
Now in Iraq you had a traditional war. There is the army it is too big to
miss. We know the army we know where it is. The goal is to engage the Army
and break its will to fight. That is what a common soldier is trained to
do and did effectively.
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If you were going to guard or protect the Afhgan/Pakistan border, that is
not a special forces operation.
Nor would it work. The US can not stop 10,000 of thousands illegal aliens
from coming through. How will border patrols stop 1 man. Thousands of SS
and Nazi war criminals slipped right passed over one million soldiers
patroling Germany's border after WWII. One man can easily do it. Some of
them popped into US military veicheles such as truck distributing stars
and stripes. These veicheles were not searched. Border patrols are easy to
pass.
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is a mass miliiraty operation. I'll give you
an example. Between the Pkisatn and Indian border, between the tw, they
keep 1 million meb depolyed. Now, tell ne some of your GI joe spec op
stories.
And how many people are actually stopped from crossing the border? Many
still cross between the borders. Hundreds of thousands patroled East
Germany's borders. They even had a wall and miles of wire. People still
got over to the west.
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There are more special forces in Afghanistan
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than Iraq. You need special forces that can blend in and do things like
ride horses into areas veicheles can not reach. To catch Bin Laden you
have to practice unconvential warfare that is what special ops are
trained to do.
That's special operations nitwit, not guarding the border to prevent passge.
Which is completely ineffective. NO POWER EVER HAS STOPPED UNWANTED
TRAFFIC THROUGH PATROLS.
Post by Cosmo
You can ride horses. you can blend in, but that will not prevent safe
passgae of intetntional terror between Pakistan and Afgahnistan.
Perhaps not but these people know how to track the terrorist and take them
out. If the terrorist slipp into the Pakistan border Special ops can track
them and get them. If they slip past the border patrol no one ever knows
or cares. Once someone passes the border those soldiers are no longer
responisible.
Post by Cosmo
And, there are not that many in Agfhnistan anyway, Riding horses and
gathing intell is your a big part of your imagination.
Yeah right. You know what the seals and Rangers are doing there and I do
not.
Post by Cosmo
You know who really makes the bulk of our troops in Afganisatn? Mortar
men. Artillary, armor truck drivers, and grunts on who patrol. Ill tell
you something else about the 12,000. Many of then are support personel.
Supply, mess, clerks, etc. it's called Logistics.
Try the Northern Alliance. Afghanistan was Kosovo again. The US put very
troops in to support the northern alliance. There were never more a few
dozen on the ground. The Northern alliance did the bulk of the fighting.
Most special forces were ground observers who directed air strikes. This
gave the Northern Alliance the edge to finally defeat the Taliban. The US
never made a significant troop contribution to Afghanistan. From day 1
until now it has been a purely special ops mission. Special ops were sent
to assist the Northern alliance and hunt Bin Laden. Where do you think the
info for airstrikes on Bin Laden's caves came from. Men on the ground
giving info on where to bomb.
Post by Cosmo
For evry operation, there is a Logistic command. When I was in Vietnam,
the 1st Logistic Command was at Long Bihn, it supplied the 1 Corp. And it
was huge.
An army canot operate without soldiers logistics, it's the meat and
potatos of any military. Soldiers need to be fed, clothed, re-supplied
and they need to be rotated for rest. So how many of them do you think
ride horses? Out of 12,000, a handfull. Your head is in the sky. Ever
been to war? If so, you would know what goes on behind the scene requires
as many men as the front does.
This is true. You are proving my point exactly. To hunt and track down an
enemy hidding in caves you can't go in with trucks and M1 Abrahms. You
have to use primitive technology so you can traverse rough terrian. One
million men would not be more effective. A large portion would logistics
and only a small fraction would have the training and equiptment necessary
to go into the mountains and hunt down Al Qadea.
A bunch of guys in tanks and Bradleys does little because the tanks nor
the Bradleys can go into the rough terrain and get where the enemy is. You
need special forces for that. A handful of special forces who have the
equiptment to track and go anywhere is much more effective than one
million men who can not enter the mountains in their veicheles and do not
have the gear to cross the mountains. You need mountain units and special
OPs. The US HAS NEVER HAD MORE THAN ONE MOUNTAIN DIVISION AT ANY POINT IN
TIME.
Post by Cosmo
Post by Igor
I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat came
from the scene in Moore's movie.
No, the goat thing has been known about since the day it happenned. Osama
knew about it long before Moore, and ill tell you why. I have extensive
files about 9-11. Clips pic's and Doc's. In my files, I have the video
clip made by an English newscaster about Bushs 7 minutes. It shows the
entire 7 minutes, and shows the goat book. The broadcaster nararates the
entire clip. This was from the UK, and long before Mikes movie.
This just reeks of a conspiracy theorist loon. Keeping all sorts of files
of newsreel to prove a conspiracy. What did you expect Bush to do yell
Holy shit and look completely out of control. He had to give the public a
sense that things were under control and there was no need to panic. If
Secret Services guys had swept in and pulled the President out do you not
think that would have caused panic?
Post by Cosmo
It is well known that Moore recieved
Post by Igor
money from terrorist linked to Al Qadea and sold the film to them so they
could use it as propoganda.
That a terrible lie to tell buddy. Mike has never collaberted with
terror. He did not need their money.
Wrong it is documented he said that he did not care if a terrorist group
bought the film to show in places like Syria. He was on record saying he
did not care if the subsidary that bought the film in the middle east had
terrorist ties.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157503/posts
SACRAMENTO) – The distribution company releasing Michael Moore’s
propaganda flick, “Fahrenheit 9/11,” Front Row Entertainment, say they won’t
reject offers of assistance from the terrorist group, Hezbollah.
“In terms of marketing the film, Front Row is getting a boost from
organizations related to Hezbollah which have rung up from Lebanon to ask
if there’s anything they can do to support the film.
Front Row managing director, Gianluca Chacra is then quoted in the Screen
“We can’t go against these organizations as they could strongly boycott
the film in Lebanon and Syria.”
Move America Forward Vice Chair, Melanie Morgan said in response, “Michael
Moore dismisses Americans who are upset with his film and the impact it
has in undermining support for the war against terrorism. At the same
time, his distribution companies are concerned about offending the
sensibilities of terrorists. That certainly gives rise to asking the
question: whose side are you on?”
Separately, in an interview with the Canadian television network, CHUM TV,
Moore said that he is finding resistance from American movie theater
chains as he tries to secure commitments to screen “Fahrenheit 9/11.”
Moore says at least three national/regional chains won’t carry the film
and others are expressing reservations.
An audio clip of Mr. Moore’s comments related to the resistance he is
meeting from U.S. theater operators can be found on the Move America
www.MoveAmericaForward.org/MichaelMoore"
Post by Cosmo
All mIke has to do is send his scripts, and producers start sending him
checks. You know whatts well known, Bush's collaberation and protection
of the state that sposnsered the Attacks, Saudi Arabia. Wait untill the
28 pages come to light, you'll kill yourselfwhne you see who you are
defending.
28 pages of what? Some internet conspiracy theory? Micheal Moore's toilet
paper?
Hi Igor, I have not read your post, I just want to tell you something real
quick, you said very few special forces can do the job of 140,000 men, Now,
how would you expect anyone to take you as anything other than another
retarded, burned out drunken republican asswipe. There are some really
stupid republicans in here, but that statement ranked you even dumber than
dumb, I have no interest in reading anything from someone who would make
such a ridiculous statement. So long Igor, maybe some 10 years old will
belive you.
kurttrail
2004-10-30 15:21:07 UTC
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Post by Igor
I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat
came from the scene in Moore's movie.
Oh yeah! Mike hired bush to sit there. That's history dude! And the tape
of Bush sitting there was on the internet long before 911 was made.

What lying shits, you Rightards are!

http://kurttrail.com/rightard/
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zach
2004-10-30 19:15:33 UTC
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Post by Igor
Post by Cosmo
Instead of deploying his huge army to close off the Pakistan, Afghan Border,
to keep Osama and Al queada from having safe passage, Bush has a total of
12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.
No resources were diverted. Tommy Franks has confirmed this.
Surprisingly 140,000 regualr troops is not more effective than a few
special forces guys. Bin Laden is not out in the opening walking around
on the streets or in some huge compound that is hard to miss. This is a
special forces operation. There are more special forces in Afghanistan
than Iraq. You need special forces that can blend in and do things like
ride horses into areas veicheles can not reach. To catch Bin Laden you
have to practice unconvential warfare that is what special ops are
trained to do.
I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat came
from the scene in Moore's movie. It is well known that Moore recieved
money from terrorist linked to Al Qadea and sold the film to them so
they could use it as propoganda.
What Bin Laden was really implying by these comments is that "Bush knew"
Cosmo
2004-10-30 21:11:30 UTC
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Post by zach
Post by Igor
Post by Cosmo
Instead of deploying his huge army to close off the Pakistan, Afghan Border,
to keep Osama and Al queada from having safe passage, Bush has a total of
12,000 troops in Afhganistan, but 140,000 in Iraq.
No resources were diverted. Tommy Franks has confirmed this.
Surprisingly 140,000 regualr troops is not more effective than a few
special forces guys. Bin Laden is not out in the opening walking around
on the streets or in some huge compound that is hard to miss. This is a
special forces operation. There are more special forces in Afghanistan
than Iraq. You need special forces that can blend in and do things like
ride horses into areas veicheles can not reach. To catch Bin Laden you
have to practice unconvential warfare that is what special ops are
trained to do.
I mentioned Micheal Moore because Osamma's reference about the goat came
from the scene in Moore's movie. It is well known that Moore recieved
money from terrorist linked to Al Qadea and sold the film to them so
they could use it as propoganda.
What Bin Laden was really implying by these comments is that "Bush knew"
The whole thing was just a diverison from the hailburton, missing weapons,
voter fraud, bush admitted he was not fit to be CIC, he had a bad month, and
tried to close it out with another goofy diversion.
Sir Cumference
2004-10-30 02:39:20 UTC
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Post by Cosmo
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic if
Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he promised. Bush
screwed up, got us attacked,
Nope, guess again. It was Clinton who let Osama get away, not once but
twice. Clinton was too busy getting a blow job in the back office from
Monica to worry about Osama. So to thank Clinton for screwing around,
Osama took down the WTC towers. Thank you Clinton for the loss of some
3,000 lives on American soil. And Kerry is just another Clinton.
kurttrail
2004-10-30 04:40:23 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Cosmo
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction.
If not for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden
would not be out there making tapes. We would not be concerned if
the tapes are authentic if Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have
delivered him as he promised. Bush screwed up, got us attacked,
Nope, guess again. It was Clinton who let Osama get away, not once but
twice. Clinton was too busy getting a blow job in the back office from
Monica to worry about Osama. So to thank Clinton for screwing around,
Osama took down the WTC towers. Thank you Clinton for the loss of some
3,000 lives on American soil. And Kerry is just another Clinton.
If you want to go back in history for someone to blame, Reagan had the CIA
arm and train Osama.

The reality of the situation is that on the day Bush got the PDB that said
"Bin Laden determined to strike in US," Bush went fishing and spent the rest
of the month on vacation. On 9/11, Condi Rice was supposed to give a speech
that laid out the National Security issues the Bush administration was
dealing with, and it was about missile defence, not terrorism. The Bush
administration was asleep at the wheel when it came to the threat of Osama &
Al Al Qaida.

Had it been Al Gore that was President and did nothing after being
continually warned about the threat since the first day of his Presidency,
he would have been impeached.
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Cosmo
2004-10-30 05:32:12 UTC
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Post by kurttrail
Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Cosmo
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction.
If not for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden
would not be out there making tapes. We would not be concerned if
the tapes are authentic if Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have
delivered him as he promised. Bush screwed up, got us attacked,
Nope, guess again. It was Clinton who let Osama get away, not once but
twice. Clinton was too busy getting a blow job in the back office from
Monica to worry about Osama. So to thank Clinton for screwing around,
Osama took down the WTC towers. Thank you Clinton for the loss of some
3,000 lives on American soil. And Kerry is just another Clinton.
If you want to go back in history for someone to blame, Reagan had the CIA
arm and train Osama.
You took the nail, and hit it right on the head. Osama was in the pocket of
the Reagan admin.
But these lamers will never belive the truth, they hate the truth.
Post by kurttrail
The reality of the situation is that on the day Bush got the PDB that said
"Bin Laden determined to strike in US," Bush went fishing and spent the rest
of the month on vacation. On 9/11, Condi Rice was supposed to give a speech
that laid out the National Security issues the Bush administration was
dealing with, and it was about missile defence, not terrorism. The Bush
administration was asleep at the wheel when it came to the threat of Osama &
Al Al Qaida.
Bush, by virute of his ego, his laziness and his inabilty to read, is
responsible for the attack of 9-11. It is in his lap, always has, and always
will be.
Post by kurttrail
Had it been Al Gore that was President and did nothing after being
continually warned about the threat since the first day of his Presidency,
he would have been impeached.
If Gore had been the presidnt, we aould have ot been attacked.
His counter terrorism would have been to effective.

They waited untill weakness, ignorance and arrogance was in office, then hit
us, when we we weak. Just like Bush's wolf commercial says, they wait
untill we are weak, then strike.
Bush was the weakest dumbest thing to ever hit washington, and the terrosts
said NOW!

America will, never be weaker, or more ignoranat and arrogant. Hit them now.
Brand new president, went to Texas, did not read the warnings, that is weak,
and weak is Bushs middle name. What do you think the "W" is for. Loud talk
after the attack is over does nothing but show more weakness. Teddy
Roosevelt had the difinitive quote to shut up a big mouth. Bush should have
followed Teddy's advise. But bush got it backwards, Bush has a big mouth and
a small stick. (stick being his brain)
Post by kurttrail
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Igor
2004-10-30 06:46:35 UTC
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Post by Cosmo
Post by kurttrail
Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Cosmo
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction.
If not for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden
would not be out there making tapes. We would not be concerned if
the tapes are authentic if Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have
delivered him as he promised. Bush screwed up, got us attacked,
Nope, guess again. It was Clinton who let Osama get away, not once but
twice. Clinton was too busy getting a blow job in the back office from
Monica to worry about Osama. So to thank Clinton for screwing around,
Osama took down the WTC towers. Thank you Clinton for the loss of some
3,000 lives on American soil. And Kerry is just another Clinton.
If you want to go back in history for someone to blame, Reagan had the CIA
arm and train Osama.
You took the nail, and hit it right on the head. Osama was in the pocket of
the Reagan admin.
But these lamers will never belive the truth, they hate the truth.
Wrong Bin Laden was only one of the people trained in Afghanistan. He
was not a major player. His name may surfaced in a report but was not a
big player. The US supported both what would become the Northern
Alliance and what would become the Taliban. The problem was not that we
supported them it was that we turned our backs on them when the USSR
left. Very much like Vietnam, Greece, and other parts of Southern Europe
after WWII. We had the chance to keep Nam capitialist and maybe even
democratic. Ho Chi Mihn was backed by the US until the Japanese were
defeated. Truman turned his back and Moscow and Peking were more than
eager to help when Mihn sent out a call. The US could have brokered a
peace with France and kept the Viet Mihn from going communist.

The same happened in Afghanistan. Once the USSR was out we did not care
and we let them fight it out. We could have prevented the Taliban.
Cosmo
2004-10-30 07:37:32 UTC
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Post by Cosmo
Post by kurttrail
Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Cosmo
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction.
If not for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden
would not be out there making tapes. We would not be concerned if
the tapes are authentic if Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have
delivered him as he promised. Bush screwed up, got us attacked,
Nope, guess again. It was Clinton who let Osama get away, not once but
twice. Clinton was too busy getting a blow job in the back office from
Monica to worry about Osama. So to thank Clinton for screwing around,
Osama took down the WTC towers. Thank you Clinton for the loss of some
3,000 lives on American soil. And Kerry is just another Clinton.
If you want to go back in history for someone to blame, Reagan had the CIA
arm and train Osama.
You took the nail, and hit it right on the head. Osama was in the pocket
of the Reagan admin.
But these lamers will never belive the truth, they hate the truth.
Wrong Bin Laden was only one of the people trained in Afghanistan. He was
not a major player.
Just because you say that does not make it so. Osama was alays a major
player, and I will tell you why. He was filthy rich, and agreed to finance
much of the training arms and fighters. Osama was the man who financed it
before the USA got involved. Where else would the influx of money, guns and
fighters would have come from, Afghanistan did not have it.



His name may surfaced in a report but was not a
big player.
Read the above, he got it going, he breathed the life into the resistance.

The US supported both what would become the Northern
Alliance and what would become the Taliban.
The US was only interested in the Russians, they did not care about the
taliban or the NA before the Russians arrived. That was small potatos, the
Russian were our target

The problem was not that we
supported them it was that we turned our backs on them when the USSR left.
The problem is, that we were corrupt in our efforts, and we paid for it with
the lives of 3000 americans.


Very much like Vietnam, Greece, and other parts of Southern Europe
after WWII. We had the chance to keep Nam capitialist and maybe even
democratic. Ho Chi Mihn was backed by the US until the Japanese were
defeated. Truman turned his back and Moscow and Peking were more than
eager to help when Mihn sent out a call. The US could have brokered a
peace with France and kept the Viet Mihn from going communist.
Again, ancient history, nothing to do with the subject.
The same happened in Afghanistan. Once the USSR was out we did not care
and we let them fight it out. We could have prevented the Taliban.
You changed the subject and lost the debate. We were talking about the root
of Osama Bin laden and his connection to 9-11 and the american goverment.
Cosmo
2004-10-30 05:15:19 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Cosmo
John Kerry has been proven tight about the great Iraq distraction. If not
for that, Bushs old bisiness partner Osama "W" Bin Laden would not be out
there making tapes. We would not be concerned if the tapes are authentic
if Sheriff George "W" Yosimte Sam would have delivered him as he
promised. Bush screwed up, got us attacked,
Nope, guess again. It was Clinton who let Osama get away,
Lots of talk, no proof. I hear that alot, perhaps you will prove that, so
far no one else who made that claim has proven it to be anymore than buck
passing. But if you can prove it, I will debate you. If not well, more buck
passing and blaming.




not once but
Post by Sir Cumference
twice.
OK, so prove it twice. You sadi twice, now the buden of proof is two
measures.

Clinton was too busy getting a blow job in the back office from
Post by Sir Cumference
Monica to worry about Osama.
Oh I see, you're to busy worrying about Clintons cock instead of the real
world around. I thouht Tim Russetrt wass the biggest Clinton cock envier,
but he has competition from you. Maybe you could go to onwe of the celbrity
impersonaters shows and get a Clinton look alike to let you suck him off. It
would not be the real thing, but it may satisdfy your lust.

So to thank Clinton for screwing around,

Thank you George Bush for allowing 9-11 to happen on your watch, and given
almost 4 years, you spent all the money and have wasted our militray so Bin
Laden can help you get re-elected. I would have rather you just got a blow
job, instead of sitting around watching our country get attacked. Bush, you
were never known for courage, just big talk. You were president Bush, you
went on vacation, and we got bombed. Blaming it on Clinton is the mark of
the coward, and Mr Bush, you wear it wwell.
Post by Sir Cumference
Osama took down the WTC towers.
Whie bush cleared brush insted of studying reports and learning to do his
new job.


Thank you Clinton for the loss of some
Post by Sir Cumference
3,000 lives on American soil. And Kerry is just another Clinton.
Thanks Mr Clinton for giving us 8 years with no major attacks on our shore.
The first trade center attack was GHW Bushs fault for fucking his buddies in
Suadi.

We miss you Bill, you kept the peace, made us secure and we prospered under
you admin. Bill, you know, that after you left, the country is broke, we are
at war, and our hearts are broken because our kids are being mrdered and
maimed for oil, over lies deceit and greed. Bush is not a leader Bill. H is
is a self serving bloodthisty Big Corporation masqurading as a human being.
He likes to see people die. He likes to feed the rich at the cost of the
poor. He likes to smear Americas war veterans, because he is jealous of them

Some asshole just said Kerry is another Clinton, we can only hope. We will
not have to be threaened by our president to vote for him or him and his VP,
or they will kill us all in a devastaing attack. Some chickeshits are afraid
of them but we true American patriots don't buy their brand of fear. It's
for cowards only.
Sir Circumference
2004-10-31 04:27:07 UTC
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Post by Cosmo
Lots of talk, no proof. I hear that alot, perhaps you will prove that, so
far no one else who made that claim has proven it to be anymore than buck
passing. But if you can prove it, I will debate you. If not well, more buck
passing and blaming.
Assuming you are capable of such, go to google and search on "clinton
let bin laden get away" or "clinton and bin laden", or assuming you can
read, read the book, "Losing bin Laden".
wbarwell
2004-10-31 04:15:52 UTC
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Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Lots of talk, no proof. I hear that alot, perhaps you will prove that, so
far no one else who made that claim has proven it to be anymore than buck
passing. But if you can prove it, I will debate you. If not well, more
buck passing and blaming.
Assuming you are capable of such, go to google and search on "clinton
let bin laden get away" or "clinton and bin laden", or assuming you can
read, read the book, "Losing bin Laden".
I know Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden with a cruise missle
attack that failed only because Bin Laden left a big confab
early.

Earlier still, a team of Afghanistani kinappers attacked Bin Laden
at his farm in Afghanistran, an effort set up by the CIA, and failed
when many of them were killed.

Clinton at least tried.
Bush let him escape and did little afterwords.

Bush, rather than deal with bin Laden, decided to lie us
into an unecssary war. Not only is Bin Laden stil loose,
he has many more recruits now and untold piles of weapons
being stashed all over the Middle east from Iraq.

Bush must go. Clinton, pro or con is gone.
Bush is a danger to us all.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero

Cheerful Charlie
Abd-er-Rahman III
2004-10-30 08:32:00 UTC
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Hey, George, where the fuck is Bin Laden??

I thought you were gonna get him?

Smoke him out?

BS liar

Bush is still AWOL for America

www.awolbush.com
The Last Liberal
2004-10-29 22:57:13 UTC
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Post by MrPepper11
Al-Jazeera broadcasts new bin Laden tape
'Bush cannot protect you,' he tells America
Indeed, Bush2 has put all Americans into the greatest danger we have
known since World War Two.
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Sir Cumference
2004-10-30 03:09:30 UTC
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Post by MrPepper11
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you."
bin Laden did not say "Bush cannot protect you", he said, "Your security
is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda.
So he is saying you boy "hero" Kerry cannot protect you either.

Between the two to protect us, I put my money on Bush.
Ex-Republican
2004-10-30 03:36:03 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
Post by MrPepper11
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you."
bin Laden did not say "Bush cannot protect you", he said, "Your security
is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda.
So he is saying you boy "hero" Kerry cannot protect you either.
Between the two to protect us, I put my money on Bush.
he hasn't protected you or anybody else from your own stupidity.
kurttrail
2004-10-30 04:43:02 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
Post by MrPepper11
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you."
bin Laden did not say "Bush cannot protect you", he said, "Your
security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda.
So he is saying you boy "hero" Kerry cannot protect you either.
Between the two to protect us, I put my money on Bush.
Why? Bush has let Osama get fat on his watch, while he took America to War
in Iraq, and killed 100,000 Iraqis on false pretences!
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2004-10-30 05:36:15 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
Post by MrPepper11
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you."
bin Laden did not say "Bush cannot protect you", he said, "Your security
is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda.
So he is saying you boy "hero" Kerry cannot protect you either.
Between the two to protect us, I put my money on Bush.
Then you already lost. Bush failed to protect us.

Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.

We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
richardfalco
2004-10-30 14:53:14 UTC
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listen to me
Post by Cosmo
Post by Sir Cumference
Post by MrPepper11
U.S. officials who had seen the entire tape told NBC News that in the
tape, which they said was authentic, bin Laden tells the American
people that "Bush cannot protect you."
bin Laden did not say "Bush cannot protect you", he said, "Your security
is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda.
So he is saying you boy "hero" Kerry cannot protect you either.
Between the two to protect us, I put my money on Bush.
Then you already lost. Bush failed to protect us.
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Sir Circumference
2004-10-31 02:41:30 UTC
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Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Richard
2004-10-31 02:55:53 UTC
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Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
DDB
2004-10-31 03:39:43 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could have three
times including once in late September of 2000.
Richard
2004-10-31 04:01:52 UTC
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Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could have three
times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
Richard
2004-10-31 04:06:31 UTC
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Now the Afghani Taliban are getting into the abduction act.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12516-2004Oct30.html

Nothing like leaving a bunch of loose ends all other the place GEORGE
Igor
2004-10-31 19:00:27 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could have three
times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was elected.
How can an ex-president declare war. HOW CAN A SITTING PRESIDENT DECLARE
WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit your bong again you
are living in lala land.
kurttrail
2004-10-31 21:12:25 UTC
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Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned
and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the
loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was elected.
How can an ex-president declare war. HOW CAN A SITTING PRESIDENT
DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit your bong
again you are living in lala land.
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before Gore was
inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme Court, and Clinton
left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
--
Peace!
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Igor
2004-11-01 00:29:48 UTC
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Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned
and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the
loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was elected.
How can an ex-president declare war. HOW CAN A SITTING PRESIDENT
DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit your bong
again you are living in lala land.
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before Gore was
inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme Court, and Clinton
left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
You can speculate all you want. I doubt Clinton could have kept his eyes
of interns g-strings long enough to do anything.
kurttrail
2004-11-01 00:45:56 UTC
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Post by Igor
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned
and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the
loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report,
SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was
elected. How can an ex-president declare war. HOW CAN A SITTING
PRESIDENT DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit
your bong again you are living in lala land.
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before
Gore was inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme
Court, and Clinton left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
You can speculate all you want. I doubt Clinton could have kept his
eyes of interns g-strings long enough to do anything.
Like Richard already told you, read the 911 report. But my guess is you are
too stupid to find it on your own.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
Igor
2004-11-01 17:04:12 UTC
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Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned
and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the
loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report,
SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was
elected. How can an ex-president declare war. HOW CAN A SITTING
PRESIDENT DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit
your bong again you are living in lala land.
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before
Gore was inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme
Court, and Clinton left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
You can speculate all you want. I doubt Clinton could have kept his
eyes of interns g-strings long enough to do anything.
Like Richard already told you, read the 911 report. But my guess is you are
too stupid to find it on your own.
I have read it. Speculation such as this is NO PROOF. Speculation is
just speculation.
kurttrail
2004-11-01 17:18:19 UTC
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Post by Igor
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that,
but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who
planned and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama
is on the loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report,
SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken
us to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election.
OBL would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was
elected. How can an ex-president declare war. HOW CAN A SITTING
PRESIDENT DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go
hit your bong again you are living in lala land.
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before
Gore was inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme
Court, and Clinton left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
You can speculate all you want. I doubt Clinton could have kept his
eyes of interns g-strings long enough to do anything.
Like Richard already told you, read the 911 report. But my guess is
you are too stupid to find it on your own.
I have read it. Speculation such as this is NO PROOF. Speculation is
just speculation.
LOL! Well we know for a FACT that Bush did nothing about it.
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
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Richard
2004-11-01 03:05:52 UTC
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Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned
and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the
loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was elected.
How can an ex-president declare war.
Go look up "lame duck presidency", you little shit-stain.
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
HOW CAN A SITTING PRESIDENT
DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit your bong
again you are living in lala land.
While it's true the Republican Congress would have fought Clinton
completely on a formal declaration of war against al Qaeda (dumb
shits that they were and are), Clinton simply would have...oh, here,
Post by kurttrail
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before Gore was
inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme Court, and Clinton
left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
kurttrail
2004-11-01 03:29:12 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
Post by Richard
Post by DDB
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned
and financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the
loose. Talk to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report,
SockPuppet.
You're right Richard the 9/11 commission report claimed he could
have three times including once in late September of 2000.
You must have missed the part about how Clinton would have taken us
to war over the USS Cole had Gore been awarded the election. OBL
would be dead, and 9/11 would never have happened.
What kind of crap is this? Clinton declaring war if Gore was
elected. How can an ex-president declare war.
Go look up "lame duck presidency", you little shit-stain.
Post by kurttrail
Post by Igor
HOW CAN A SITTING PRESIDENT
DECLARE WAR? War can only be declared by congress. Go hit your bong
again you are living in lala land.
While it's true the Republican Congress would have fought Clinton
completely on a formal declaration of war against al Qaeda (dumb
shits that they were and are), Clinton simply would have...oh, here,
Post by kurttrail
Clinton would have attacked if Gore won the election, but before
Gore was inaugurated. Instead Bush was selected by the Supreme
Court, and Clinton left the response for the Cole bombing to Bush.
And Bush didn't respond to the Cole bombing!
--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
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Igor
2004-10-31 18:51:46 UTC
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Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the whole
population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
Wrong. CIA reports made just after the attack on Afghanistan that
Clinton used to take attention away from zipper gate said that the
likely retalation for Afghanistan's 9/11 would be another attack on the
world trade center.

Clinton indescriminately sending in cruise missiles on bad intel and
bombing an Aspirin factory and killing civilians reawakened Al Qaedea
NOT anything Bush did. Al Qaedea was attacking more often on Clinton's
watch. Bin Laden did not like Clinton's support for Israel in the middle
east peace talks and he did not like Clinton constantly "meddling" in
Arab affairs as he saw it.

9/11 is the byproduct of a quickly planned and illexecuted attack on
Afghanistan that Clinton only did to take heat off the Monica Lewinsky
scandal.

Talk about not knowing the english language.

Clinton
"How do you define alone?"
"What is your definition of is?"

Pretty bad.

We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught the
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Wrong. It was caused by Clinton's actions in the Israel peace process
and his bombing of Afghanistan for the sole reason he wanted people to
forget he committed adultery. The plan was there long before Bush came
into office. Without the intel Clinton cut we had no idea the time or
locations that the attacks would come from.
Post by Richard
Post by Sir Circumference
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
Not. You oughta go re-read the 9/11 Commission report, SockPuppet.
Sudan offered up Bin Laden twice. In fairness there was CIA worries that
the commandos Sudan was to use were trained well enough to pull the job
off without serious civilian causalties. Clinton was worried about
collateral damage.
Igor
2004-10-31 18:41:34 UTC
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Post by Sir Circumference
Post by Cosmo
Before you cry "CLINTON DID IT"...you could never prove that, but the
whole population, including you, can prove who was on duty.
We got attacked on Bush's watch, no one elses, and he has not caught
the guys who done it. Osama is on the loose. Pay up.
Clinton could have caught the guy, had two chances, who planned and
financed it but he didn't, so you're right, Osama is on the loose. Talk
to your boy Clinton about pay up time.
On the loose and impotent. This was the panziest speech he ever made. NO
THREATS TO AMERICAN LIVES. He wasn't saying I will destroy America. He
was saying an attack is coming. He was saying I am still here and please
vote against the man I do not like. He is so weak now HE IS TRYING TO
INFLUENCE AN ELECTION AND NOT ATTACKING. His statements had about the
smae impact as Micheal Moore. Ohhh I don't like Bush please don't elect
him. No death threats. No attack threats. He IS FINISHED. If he was
sitting in a position of power he would have threatened Bush's life.
Instead he was saying please do not vote for him. His message could have
been easily mistaken for what a 527 group for Nader would say. Bush is
lying and neither Bush nor Kerry can protect you.

Ohh scary. Bush has really failed. 4 years ago he was threaten to kill
all Americans and bring America down. Now all he do is ask you to please
not elect Bush. Yeah complete failure.
Sir Cumference
2004-11-01 19:53:31 UTC
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Post by Igor
On the loose and impotent. This was the panziest speech he ever made. NO
THREATS TO AMERICAN LIVES. He wasn't saying I will destroy America. He
was saying an attack is coming. He was saying I am still here and please
vote against the man I do not like. He is so weak now HE IS TRYING TO
INFLUENCE AN ELECTION AND NOT ATTACKING. His statements had about the
smae impact as Micheal Moore. Ohhh I don't like Bush please don't elect
him. No death threats. No attack threats. He IS FINISHED. If he was
sitting in a position of power he would have threatened Bush's life.
Instead he was saying please do not vote for him. His message could have
been easily mistaken for what a 527 group for Nader would say. Bush is
lying and neither Bush nor Kerry can protect you.
Ohh scary. Bush has really failed. 4 years ago he was threaten to kill
all Americans and bring America down. Now all he do is ask you to please
not elect Bush. Yeah complete failure.
And after the bin Laden tape came out, Kerry goes out and takes a poll
among voters to see how he should respond to the tape. Good grief!! The
idiot Kerry doesn't even know how to respond without asking someone
else. That is so he can say what he thinks people want him to say, he
doesn't have the guts to say anything or stand on his own. The guy is a
complete pansy coward moron. Osama has Kerry in his hands.
This proves what Kerry has been saying all along, he will not defend
America unless he gets the approval of the corrupt, dysfunctional UN and
we must pass the "global test" among other nations.
Voting for the coward Kerry is voting for bin Laden and the terrorists.
Richard
2004-11-01 20:29:54 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
And after the bin Laden tape came out, Kerry goes out and takes a poll
among voters to see how he should respond to the tape. Good grief!! The
idiot Kerry doesn't even know how to respond without asking someone
else.
<Ahem>. Cheney is not a source of accurate information.
SwiftBoatVet@MoveOnForAmerica
2004-11-01 22:17:06 UTC
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Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Igor
On the loose and impotent. This was the panziest speech he ever made.
NO THREATS TO AMERICAN LIVES. He wasn't saying I will destroy
America. He was saying an attack is coming. He was saying I am still
here and please vote against the man I do not like. He is so weak now
HE IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE AN ELECTION AND NOT ATTACKING. His
statements had about the smae impact as Micheal Moore. Ohhh I don't
like Bush please don't elect him. No death threats. No attack
threats. He IS FINISHED. If he was sitting in a position of power he
would have threatened Bush's life. Instead he was saying please do
not vote for him. His message could have been easily mistaken for
what a 527 group for Nader would say. Bush is lying and neither Bush
nor Kerry can protect you.
Ohh scary. Bush has really failed. 4 years ago he was threaten to
kill all Americans and bring America down. Now all he do is ask you
to please not elect Bush. Yeah complete failure.
And after the bin Laden tape came out, Kerry goes out and takes a poll
among voters to see how he should respond to the tape. Good grief!!
The idiot Kerry doesn't even know how to respond without asking
someone else. That is so he can say what he thinks people want him to
say, he doesn't have the guts to say anything or stand on his own. The
guy is a complete pansy coward moron. Osama has Kerry in his hands.
This proves what Kerry has been saying all along, he will not defend
America unless he gets the approval of the corrupt, dysfunctional UN
and we must pass the "global test" among other nations.
Voting for the coward Kerry is voting for bin Laden and the
terrorists.
It has already been established that Bin Laden wants a Kerry Presidency.
Of course, traitorous Democrats are going to obey Bin Laden and vote for
the cowardly traitor who is the choice of all Terrorists.
If someone wants to help the terrorists and obey Bin Laden, just vote for
Kerry.
--
"We resent very deeply the false war crimes charges John Kerry
made coming back from Vietnam in 1971 and repeated in the book
"Tour of Duty." We think those cast an aspersion on all those
living and dead, from our unit and other units in Vietnam.
We think that he knew he was lying when he made the charges, and
we think that they're unsupportable. We intend to bring the truth
about that to the American people.
We believe, based on our experience with him, that he is totally
unfit to be the Commander-in-Chief."
Robyn Lee
2004-11-01 22:19:40 UTC
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Post by ***@MoveOnForAmerica
Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Igor
On the loose and impotent. This was the panziest speech he ever made.
NO THREATS TO AMERICAN LIVES. He wasn't saying I will destroy
America. He was saying an attack is coming. He was saying I am still
here and please vote against the man I do not like. He is so weak now
HE IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE AN ELECTION AND NOT ATTACKING. His
statements had about the smae impact as Micheal Moore. Ohhh I don't
like Bush please don't elect him. No death threats. No attack
threats. He IS FINISHED. If he was sitting in a position of power he
would have threatened Bush's life. Instead he was saying please do
not vote for him. His message could have been easily mistaken for
what a 527 group for Nader would say. Bush is lying and neither Bush
nor Kerry can protect you.
Ohh scary. Bush has really failed. 4 years ago he was threaten to
kill all Americans and bring America down. Now all he do is ask you
to please not elect Bush. Yeah complete failure.
And after the bin Laden tape came out, Kerry goes out and takes a poll
among voters to see how he should respond to the tape. Good grief!!
The idiot Kerry doesn't even know how to respond without asking
someone else. That is so he can say what he thinks people want him to
say, he doesn't have the guts to say anything or stand on his own. The
guy is a complete pansy coward moron. Osama has Kerry in his hands.
This proves what Kerry has been saying all along, he will not defend
America unless he gets the approval of the corrupt, dysfunctional UN
and we must pass the "global test" among other nations.
Voting for the coward Kerry is voting for bin Laden and the
terrorists.
It has already been established that Bin Laden wants a Kerry Presidency.
Of course, traitorous Democrats are going to obey Bin Laden and vote for
the cowardly traitor who is the choice of all Terrorists.
If someone wants to help the terrorists and obey Bin Laden, just vote for
Kerry.
Right, now you're actually shitting out of your mouth. Only a neocon idiot
would beieve the shit you spew. Thank God at least 48% of us can think.

Robyn
http://profiles.yahoo.com/bobbilee_trannie
Yahoo IM msrobynlee2000
Fuck George W Bush!
~NortH~
2004-11-01 23:10:35 UTC
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Post by ***@MoveOnForAmerica
Post by Sir Cumference
Post by Igor
On the loose and impotent. This was the panziest speech he ever made.
NO THREATS TO AMERICAN LIVES. He wasn't saying I will destroy
America. He was saying an attack is coming. He was saying I am still
here and please vote against the man I do not like. He is so weak now
HE IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE AN ELECTION AND NOT ATTACKING. His
statements had about the smae impact as Micheal Moore. Ohhh I don't
like Bush please don't elect him. No death threats. No attack
threats. He IS FINISHED. If he was sitting in a position of power he
would have threatened Bush's life. Instead he was saying please do
not vote for him. His message could have been easily mistaken for
what a 527 group for Nader would say. Bush is lying and neither Bush
nor Kerry can protect you.
Ohh scary. Bush has really failed. 4 years ago he was threaten to
kill all Americans and bring America down. Now all he do is ask you
to please not elect Bush. Yeah complete failure.
And after the bin Laden tape came out, Kerry goes out and takes a poll
among voters to see how he should respond to the tape. Good grief!!
The idiot Kerry doesn't even know how to respond without asking
someone else. That is so he can say what he thinks people want him to
say, he doesn't have the guts to say anything or stand on his own. The
guy is a complete pansy coward moron. Osama has Kerry in his hands.
This proves what Kerry has been saying all along, he will not defend
America unless he gets the approval of the corrupt, dysfunctional UN
and we must pass the "global test" among other nations.
Voting for the coward Kerry is voting for bin Laden and the
terrorists.
It has already been established that Bin Laden wants a Kerry Presidency.
Of course, traitorous Democrats are going to obey Bin Laden and vote for
the cowardly traitor who is the choice of all Terrorists.
If someone wants to help the terrorists and obey Bin Laden, just vote for
Kerry.
wow... so whatcha gonna do when John Kerry becomes the POTUS?

are you going to stand up and be a good citizen and support your commander
in chief, or are you going to be a traitor?

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2004-10-30 18:09:17 UTC
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